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BWCAW Quota Permit — Moose River South (EP8)

Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness · Minnesota

Moose River South is a paddle-only overnight entry off the Echo Trail that exists mostly to reach one lake, Big Moose Lake. The carry from the car to the river is a few rods. The hard parts come after, with a long first portage and a second one into the lake, and the lake has only five campsites for a quota of one group.

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May 1 (quota permit season opens) to September 30 (quota permit season ends; self-issued permits October 1 to April 30)
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How to get a Moose River South (EP8) permit

As of October 2026, Moose River South (EP8) in Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, Minnesota requires a permit issued via reservation. Moose River South (EP8) rates 6/10 on PermitSnag's demand index. Canceled Moose River South (EP8) permits are re-released on the booking system, and PermitSnag alerts you the moment one opens. The permit season for Moose River South (EP8) runs May 1 (quota permit season opens) through September 30 (quota permit season ends; self-issued permits October 1 to April 30).

Type
Overnight
Location
LaCroix District, Superior National Forest, MN
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How much a Moose River South (EP8) permit costs

Moose River South (EP8) permit fee: $16 per adult and $8 per child or youth 0-17, per person per trip, plus a $6 non-refundable reservation fee. A $32 minimum deposit (two adult fees) is taken at booking and any difference is refunded when the permit is issued.

Moose River South (EP8): what makes it different

Moose River South is a paddle-only overnight entry off the Echo Trail that exists mostly to reach one lake, Big Moose Lake. The carry from the car to the river is a few rods. The hard parts come after, with a long first portage and a second one into the lake, and the lake has only five campsites for a quota of one group.1,2,3,6

Getting to the start

The Forest Service lists EP8 as overnight, paddle only, run by the LaCroix District out of Cook. It describes a canoe landing heading south from the Echo Trail and three portages to get into Big Moose Lake.1,2

From Ely you follow the Echo Trail west to its junction with Forest Road 464, about 32 miles out. Turn left and drive roughly four more miles on gravel that BWCA Wild says any car can handle. The small lot has room on both sides of the road, the bulletin board is on the south side, and there is no restroom.3

The Little Indian Sioux River South lot sits on the Echo Trail near Forest Road 464, and BWCA Wild notes that the Moose River landing is visible from that lot.4

The first leg

The carry from the parking area down to the Moose River is 4 rods, which BWCA Wild calls trivial. Everything that makes this entry hard happens on the river and at the lake.3,5

Big Moose Lake sits a bit over two miles up the Moose River from the lake's northwest corner. The river carries you to a long first portage, then to a 64-rod portage that drops you into the lake.6,5

Sources disagree on the long portage. BWCA Wild's entry page prints 176 rods for it, and two paddlers on Quiet Journey measured it at 166 rods, so expect somewhere in that range and plan a double carry.3,8,9

Terrain and difficulty

Big Moose Lake covers 1,025 acres and is only 23 feet deep at its deepest, so most of it is shallow and rocky. Its elevation is 1,393 feet, the same as the Moose River's headwaters.6,5

The Moose River runs about 12.4 miles from Big Moose Lake down to Nina Moose Lake and falls about 11 feet per mile. BWCA Wild describes the upper part as unmaintained and rarely traveled, with beaver dams to lift over, downed trees, and rapids you may need to walk around.5

The long portage climbs. A 2001 reviewer called it fairly easy but mostly uphill with a stretch of ledge rock, and said the last 60 rods into the lake are easy.8

Quota at this entry point

  • 2026 daily quota at Moose River South (EP8), overnight paddle: 1 group a day. This was the daily total on the dates Recreation.gov listed from May to September 2026. BWCA Wild describes it as one group every other day.2

Rules specific to this entry point

Paddle only. Rec.gov's division text says to use EP16 for Moose River travel north of the Echo Trail, so an EP8 permit is the south-side entry only.2,1

Where it leads

Big Moose Lake is the destination. It has 5 campsites, and BWCA Wild says nearly all the traffic comes through EP8. Fishing is reported as consistently good for walleye, with smallmouth bass and northern pike also listed.6

Leaving Big Moose by any other way means long carries: 645 rods to Cummings Lake, 490 rods to Duck Lake, or about 740 rods up the Big Moose Trail to EP76. BWCA Wild says that is why you rarely meet paddlers coming in from other routes.6,3

What trip reports say

A fall 2001 reviewer on Quiet Journey went in at high water, rated the route average, and warned against attempting it if the river is low. He found the lake large, shallow and very rocky, with small walleye and smallmouth.8

A summer 2002 reviewer found the river too low in late July and walked in on the hiking trail from EP76 instead. On the way out the group hit bottom several times in both sections of the river.9

That same 2002 visitor met a 20 mph west wind that pushed fishing to the east side of the lake, and took a limit of smallmouth bass in about four and a half hours.9

When to go from here

Water level decides this trip. Both Quiet Journey reviewers tie their trips to it, one calling for high water and the other turning back to the hiking trail in late July. Check the river before you drive 36 miles of the Echo Trail and forest road.8,9

Compare with nearby entry points

  • Moose/Portage River North (EP16): Moose/Portage River North (EP16) is also paddle only but sits north of the Echo Trail, starts with a 160-rod portage, and runs down to Nina Moose Lake, a route BWCA Wild says can be fairly busy. EP8 goes upriver to a lake with few visitors.1,5,7
  • Little Indian Sioux River South (EP9): Little Indian Sioux River South (EP9) is also on the Echo Trail, 39 miles from Ely, also paddle only, and also a quota of one. It has an 8-rod carry and leads to Bootleg Lake, nine river miles away, while EP8 leads to Big Moose.4,2

Rules every BWCAW entry point shares

  • From May 1 to September 30, any overnight trip and any motorized day trip needs a quota permit. From October 1 to April 30 a free self-issued permit covers you.10
  • Quota permits for the whole season go on sale at 9:00 a.m. Central on the last Wednesday in January, on Recreation.gov. You enter only on the date and at the entry point printed on the permit.10
  • Overnight fees are $16 per adult and $8 per youth, per trip, plus a $6 reservation fee and a $32 deposit at booking.10
  • At most nine people and four watercraft together, on the water, on portages and in camp. The permit holder or the named alternate collects it, with photo ID, on the entry date or the day before.10
All Boundary Waters entry points

Sources

  1. Boundary Water Canoe Area Wilderness Entry Points, Superior National Forest, USDA Forest Service. Read 2026-10-15.
  2. Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness Permit, Moose River South division, Recreation.gov. Read 2026-10-15.
  3. Entry Point 8 - Moose River South, BWCA Wild. Read 2026-10-15.
  4. Entry Point 9 - Little Indian Sioux River South, BWCA Wild. Read 2026-10-15.
  5. Moose River, BWCA Wild. Read 2026-10-15.
  6. Big Moose Lake, BWCA Wild. Read 2026-10-15.
  7. BWCA Entry Points, BWCA Wild. Read 2026-10-15.
  8. Entry #8 to Big Moose (fall 2001 report), Quiet Journey. Read 2026-10-15.
  9. Entry #8 to Big Moose (summer 2002 report), Quiet Journey. Read 2026-10-15.
  10. Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness Permits, Superior National Forest, USDA Forest Service. Read 2026-10-15.

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Moose River South (EP8) FAQ

Why does the Moose River South entry point permit only reach Big Moose Lake?

The Forest Service lists it as a canoe landing with three portages into Big Moose Lake. Every other way out of that lake is a carry of 490 rods or more, so most trips go in and out the same way.

How long is the first portage from the Moose River South entry point?

The car to river carry is 4 rods. The long portage on the river is reported at 176 rods by BWCA Wild and 166 rods by two paddlers on Quiet Journey, and a 64-rod portage follows into the lake.

Is the Moose River South entry point permit hard to get?

The 2026 Recreation.gov calendar showed a quota of 1 group on the dates it listed, and BWCA Wild says it is one group every other day. Big Moose Lake has only 5 campsites.

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